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   CC
   May 5th, 2010 - 09:45

   What sources are you using to determine that all of the players listed in the “returning” column have been extended scholarships for this coming year?

   The NCAA forbids schools to promise more than one year of scholarship support at a time and, therefore, they need to be renewed every year. it seems that you’re assuming that everyone who was on the roster last year both (a) was on scholarship and (b) had their scholarship renewed. Where is this information coming from?

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     Joshua
     May 5th, 2010 - 10:06

     Weak. I keep hearing this excuse from supporters of coaches who cut rosters and/or oversign. Again, this is a rule that coaches pushed for and the NCAA granted – to use it as an excuse for managing your roster like a professional football team is a complete and utter joke. Coaches select these players and they have responsibility to development, mentor them, and see them through 4 years of college athletics. Only a small percentage of these players are actually going to land in the NFL, the other 94% of the roster is going to have to do something else with their lives. If a player is taking care of business in the classroom and staying out of trouble off the field, then he should be given every opportunity to remain on the team and continue to develop. Coaches are cutting these guys based solely on the potential of future recruits.

     1. These same coaches are not selling parents on a 1 year scholarship during the recruiting process.

     2. Why do coaches always seem to get contract extensions that ensure that they are on contract for the full 4 years of whatever class they are recruiting? If everyone knows that scholarships are 1 year deals, then why is it so important to make sure that coaches are on contract for the next four years while they are out recruiting?

     Using the 1 year renewable scholarship excuse total BS. Everyone knows these are STUDENT ATHLETES who are supposed to be in college to earn a 4 year degree, along with the possibility, if they are good enough, to make it as a professional athlete in the NFL. I think a lot of you look at it the other way around that these are guys who are supposed to be in college to go to the NFL and if they work hard enough they might get a 4 year degree in the process.

     This is the professionalization of College Football and it is going to ruin the sport.

     If you subscribe to the notion that these are 1 year free agent contracts then these players should be allowed to negotiate their own contracts (and get paid), be allowed to switch teams without sitting out a year, and heck, why even bother asking them to go to class.

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     Joshua
     May 5th, 2010 - 13:20

     According to NCAA By-Laws:

     Title:15.3.5.1 – Institutional Obligation.

     The renewal of institutional financial aid based in any degree on athletics ability shall be made on or before July 1 prior to the academic year in which it is to be effective. The institution shall promptly notify in writing each student-athlete who received an award the previous academic year and who has eligibility remaining in the sport in which financial aid was awarded the previous academic year (under Bylaw 14.2) whether the grant has been renewed or not renewed for the ensuing academic year. Notification of financial aid renewals and non-renewals must come from the institution’s regular financial aid authority and not from the institution’s athletics department.

     Title:15.3.2.4 – Hearing Opportunity.

     The institution’s regular financial aid authority shall notify the student-athlete in writing of the opportunity for a hearing when institutional financial aid based in any degree on athletics ability is to be reduced or canceled during the period of the award, or is reduced or not renewed for the following academic year. The institution shall have established reasonable procedures for promptly hearing such a request and shall not delegate the responsibility for conducting the hearing to the university’s athletics department or its faculty athletics committee. The written notification of the opportunity for a hearing shall include a copy of the institution’s established policies and procedures for conducting the required hearing, including the deadline by which a student-athlete must request such a hearing.

     This is the loophole that allows a coach that is willing to exploit it the opportunity to oversign his class and then take the spring to determine which players he is going to cut. It’s slimy and it sucks.

     We live in a disposable society…if we don’t like our job, quit and get another one; if we don’t like our spouses, get divorced and find another one; we don’t like the microwave meal we picked, throw it out and get another one; a player we recruited is living up to his hype, cast him aside and get another one. It seems like everything we have is made to be disposed of when we find something new or something we like better. Whatever happened to commitment?

     Coaches pick these players and they should be required to see them through 4 years of college and do everything humanly possible to get them to graduate. Again, this is College Athletics, not professional sports.

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   James
   May 6th, 2010 - 19:39

   Miami is 6 over as well

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     Joshua
     May 6th, 2010 - 20:20

     Thanks, James! I would love it if you could provide more information – this is exactly what we were hoping for from this site. Oversigning is a time-consuming topic to investigate and we are hoping more of you join in and help us find cases of oversigning. James, can you give me some solid numbers so that I can put together a post on Miami? Thanks again for coming to the site!!!

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   James
   May 9th, 2010 - 00:08

   well where do I start. Your focus on Bama, while justified is ignoring Miami who is behaving just as badly but on a smaller scale. Under shannon they constantly pick up likely non-qualifiers and hedge their bets by oversigning. The kids sent to the prep schools sometimes end up signing with miami but kids like Prince Kent didn’t even get offered after electing to go to prep because he couldn’t get into miami. I guess miami found someone better the next year.

   Last year shannon ran off 2 QB’s (Taylor Cook and Cannon Smith) to help clear space.

   They are currently at 91 with 4-6 possibly being pushed to prep – Delmar Taylor (who I would bet anything they don’t offer again), David, Devont’a davis, Jeremy Davis, David Perry, Clive Walford, Tavadis Glenn, Travis Williams

   They signed Latwan Anderson to a track scholarship but he is going to step on the football field at some point soon. So it will be interesting to see how they wiggle him into the fold as well.

   Last year they sent Malcom Bunche and Prince kent to prep. They re-offered Bunche..did not re-offer kent

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4. 

   War Eagle
   May 25th, 2010 - 02:20

   Your need to lose overall don’t add up.

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5. 

   Yellowhammer
   June 5th, 2010 - 20:50

   Would it be lame point of view to suggest this??

   If one looks at ESPN’S top 150 high school prospects, only about 4 or 5 are from Ohio or Michigan.
   The South has the lion share of high school talent with Florida and Texas leading the way…..consider california as well.

   You dont suppose a lot of the big 10′s numbers may be limited to the limited number of prospects in the region????…….Post OSU’S roster…..what percent is from a warm weather region???….I don’t know…..but my guess is, less than 5%.

   Why would talent from the south want to play in Ann Arbor Weather???…….Why would Michigan talent want to play in sunny weather????…..Only Mark Ingram knows for sure.

   I’m not a numbers person, but I do observe.

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