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10Jun/103

On the Clock Update – LSU

In our piece, On the Clock, we listed 6 programs that one of our readers accused of oversigning:

On The Clock - Numbers for 2006 - 2010

Teams Conf. 2006 2007 2008 2009 (07-09) 2010 (07-10)
LSU SEC 26 26 26 24 76 29 105
Miami ACC 22 19 33 19 71 28 99
Texas A&M B12 23 18 24 28 70 23 93
Washington PAC10 22 27 26 19 72 31 103
Nebraska B12 22 27 28 20 75 21 96
Texas B12 25 24 20 20 64 22 86


As we mentioned in the previous post, we have not investigated every single school to determine if they have oversigned or not (we've investigated a handful, but not all of them).  Investigating oversigning is a time consuming process, which is why we are trying to engage readers and encourage them to help with the process of investigating oversigning.  If you still don't understand how to determine if a team oversigned or not, or if you are a new reader and want to learn more about oversigning, we suggest that you check out our About, Definitions, and Recruiting Budget pages which will provide all the background information you need to understand and investigate oversigning.

Back to the Clock.  We had a reader help us get to the bottom of Texas A & M's numbers, and then this morning we had a reader post a link to an article about LSU linebacker Kyle Prater transferring to Rice.

Update on LSU’s oversigning.

They just had a LB transfer…

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/sports/ncaa_football/100609-lsu-lb-prater-is-transfererring-to-rice

They are now down to 90 players on ’ship, still 5 over the limit.

We need to be clear about something, we don't know yet if LSU is truly that far over the limit or over the limit at all.  We need to review last year's roster at the end of the season, determine how many slots they had open on National Signing Day, and then compare that to the number of players they signed.  We do know they signed 105 players in the last 4 years, including 29 last year, but as we have mentioned, those are very, very high numbers but that doesn't always mean they are guilty of oversigning. 

Hopefully we'll have a few LSU fans help us out with the numbers and see if we can get to the bottom of this for LSU.  Remember, we need to know how many scholarship players were on the roster at the end of last year, how many graduated or exhausted their eligibility, and how many left early for the NFL by the January 15th deadline.

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  1. Players on LSU’s roster this year by class signed…

    *2006……(4)
    RB – Richard Murphy – Rayville, LA
    DT – Lazarius ”Pep” Levingston – Ruston, LA
    LB – Kelvin Sheppard – Stone Mountain, GA
    S – Jai Eugene – Destrehan, LA

    *2007……(14)
    QB – Jarrett Lee – Brenham, TX
    RB – Stevan Ridley – Natchez, MS
    WR – Terrance Toliver – Hempstead, TX
    WR – John Williams – Breaux Bridge, LA
    TE – Mitch Joseph – New Iberia, LA
    OL – Joseph Barksdale – Detroit, MI
    OL – Josh Dworaczyk – New Iberia, LA
    OL – Will Blackwell – West Monroe, LA
    OL – T-Bob Hebert – Norcross, GA
    DT – Drake Nevis – Marrero, LA
    LB – Stefoin Francois – Reserve, LA
    CB – Ron Brooks – Irving, TX
    K – Josh Jasper – Memphis, TN
    LS – Alex Russian – Round Rock, TX

    2008……(24)
    QB – Jordan Jefferson – Destrehan, LA
    FB – Kellen Theriot – Bellaire, TX
    WR – Chris Tolliver – Rayville, LA
    WR – Jhyryn Taylor – Franklinton, LA
    TE – Deangelo Peterson – Baton Rouge, LA
    TE – Chase Clement – Thibodaux, LA
    TE – Tyler Edwards – Monroe, LA
    OL – Alex Hurst – Arlington, TN
    OL – P.J. Lonergan – New Orleans, LA
    OL – Matt Branch – Monroe, LA
    OL – Greg Shaw – Miami, FL
    OL – Clay Spencer – Baton Rouge, LA
    OL – Thomas Parsons – Spring Branch, TX
    OL – Cordian Hagans – Duluth, GA
    DE – Chancey Aghayere – Garland, TX
    DE – Lavar Edwards – Baton Rouge, LA
    LB – Ryan Baker – Blountstown, FL
    LB – Rockey Duplessis – Belle Chasse, LA
    LB – Kyle Prater – Kerrville, TX* (Transfered to Rice in June 2010)
    CB – Patrick Johnson – Pompano Beach, FL
    CB – Derrick Bryant – Suwanee, GA
    CB – Ryan St. Julien – New Iberia, LA
    S – Brandon Taylor – Franklinton, LA
    S – Karnell Hatcher – Delray Beach, FL

    2009……(23)
    QB – Chris Garrett – Tupelo, MS
    FB – Dominique Allen – Paris, TN
    RB – Michael Ford – Leesville, LA
    WR – Rueben Randle – Bastrop, LA
    WR – Russell Shepard – Houston, TX
    OL – Josh Williford – Dothan, AL
    OL – Chris Faulk – Slidell, LA
    OL – Stavion Lowe – Brownwood, TX
    DE – Bennie Logan – Coushatta, LA
    DE – Sam Montgomery – Greenwood, SC
    DE – Barkevious Mingo – West Monroe, LA
    DT – Akiem Hicks – Sacramento, CA* (Kicked off the team)
    DT – Josh Downs – Bastrop, LA
    DT – Michael Brockers – Houston, TX
    DT – Chris Davenport – Mansfield, LA
    LB – Kevin Minter – Suwanee, GA
    LB – Lamin Barrow – Marrero, LA
    LB – Tahj Jones – Sulphur, LA
    LB – Josh Johns – Central, LA
    CB – Morris Claiborne – Shreveport, LA
    CB – Drayton Calhoun – Tucker, GA
    S – Craig Loston – Aldine, TX
    K – Derek Helton – Fort Scott, KS

    That’s 65 players returning for 2010.

    They then signed 27 players in February 2010

    65 + 27 = 92

    Since then they’ve kicked off DT: Akiem Hicks (2009 Class) because one of LSU coaches was found to have PAYED HIM MONEY to come to LSU. That Assistant coach was fired (Wide receivers Coach D.J. McCarthy).

    And then this week the LB: Kyle Prater (2008 Class) transfered to Rice.

    So that gets thenm down to 90 players, still need to lose 5 more.

    Also you may be interested to know that LSU only has 9 seniors on this years upcoming team. And guess how many recruits LSU has commited so far….11. Already over by 2 for next year…and it’s only June! They will be signing many more.

  2. Homeworks list looks pretty accurate but I will add that of the 27 that LSU signed in their last class (not the 29 you have listed on your site), it appears 2-3 will likely be grade/academic non-qualifiers. For this reason, they really only need to lose 2. While I don’t agree with oversigning, I do see the huge competitive advantage it creates and LSU is in the same division as Alabama. LSU’s oversigning is a direct result of trying to compete with Bama. Look back at LSU’s 2005 class of 13. Les Miles took exactly what he had to fill. Since then he has always stayed within recruiting budget until Saban came back to Bama and started his current trend of oversigning and having spring/summer “try-outs”.


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