LSU’s March to 85 is NOT Over
We have been following LSU's journey to get their roster down to 85 players ever since one of our readers started posting the details of their roster situation a while back, and with the announcement that Chris Garrett was being cut from the team we thought that LSU's march to 85 was over. Therefore, we started looking at LSU's recruiting for next year and that is when we noticed that Les Miles and LSU were getting a jump start on screwing players next year by already having more verbal commitments then they have room for next year.
Turns out we were wrong, forget about next year, Les Miles is not done screwing players from his current roster. Word has come out today that Elliot Porter, who had this to say about his commitment to LSU...
"I stood face to face with Coach Miles and I committed,'' Porter said proudly Saturday evening shortly after meeting with Miles during an unofficial visit to the Baton Rouge campus. "I was blown away by the campus, blown away by the school. Just everything about it, I felt at home.''
...has been asked to take a greyshirt because LSU does not have scholarship room for him because all 27 of the players they signed have made it academically.
Due to the fact that all 27 of LSU's signees are academically qualified, there would not be scholarships available for two players.
According to sources close to the situation, Archbishop Shaw High School lineman Elliott Porter will not be with the team when practice begins Thursday. Porter was asked to take a greyshirt. However, he did not want to be greyshirted. Porter asked for and received a release from his letter of intent.
Porter will be immediately eligible at any other school. A possible destination for Porter is Tennessee. Last year, Porter made 65 tackles. As a junior, Porter recorded 85 tackles, including 20 sacks. LSU intended to move Porter to the offensive line. Porter worked out with the team during the summer.
With Porter leaving, there are only two offensive linemen in the 2010 recruiting class - Evan Washington and Cameron Fordham. Washington enrolled in school last January and participated in spring practice.
There are so many things wrong with this situation that we really don't even know where to start. How does this even happen??? Why is this poor kid getting word at the last minute that there is not a scholarship for him? At least Miles has enough sense to grant him a release from his LOI, but ask yourself, why is this poor kid bound to his commitment to LSU and LSU not bound to their commitment to him??? Why does he have to ask for a release AFTER they tell him that they are not going to give him the scholarship they promised him?
It would be one thing if this was the only situation to arise with LSU this year, but look at the list of attrition and the number of scholarships they have already had to cut in order to make room.
The March to 85 - LSU
| Player | Position | Reason for Leaving |
|---|---|---|
| Akiem Hicks | Defensive Tackle | Removed from the team - was involved in NCAA investigation |
| Kyle Prater | Linebacker | Transfer |
| Jhyryn Taylor | Wide Receiver | Transfer |
| Thomas Parsons | Fullback | Medical Hardship Scholarship |
| John Williams | Wide Receiver | Medical Hardship Scholarship |
| Clay Spencer | Offensive Lineman | Medical Hardship Scholarship |
| Chris Garrett | QB | Cut - Scholarship Not Renewed |
| Houston Bates | Defensive End | Released from LOI in April; refused Greyshirt |
| Elliott Porter | Offensive Lineman | Asked to Greyshirt in AUGUST; refused Greyshirt; released |
Now add Elliot Porter to the list.
But this is nothing new at LSU, back in March we wrote a piece on Gerry DiNardo and his time at LSU and Indiana, and really nothing much has changed (sign as many as you can legally get away with and then do whatever you have to in order to get down to 85 by the fall). Here are some of his comments regarding oversigning from an SI article a long time ago.
"There are 28 new Tigers, although some of them will not qualify academically (which will keep LSU within the NCAA one-year maximum of 25 new scholarships) and many will never contribute. 'It's a fact that only about a third of the guys you sign will end up starting, because if you get it going, you sign someone the following year that's better,' DiNardo said. 'There will be injuries, transfers, failures. There always are.'"
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1007746/1/index.htm
Perhaps DiNardo and Saban were a little better at using discretion when screwing players out of scholarship to make room for better players or when hedging their bets against academic eligibility, or perhaps there just wasn't enough media coverage of this aspect of college football recruiting. There certainly wasn't an oversigning.com website back in those days.
The most disturbing part about this whole story is that the schools and the coaches have all of the power and they dangle the NFL $$$ carrot out there to the recruits in order to get them to sign and to keep them from signing with someone else, and if they want to get rid of them at any time, for any reason, they can, and they do. This is where the NCAA has got to step in and put an end to the games these coaches are playing with oversigning. Sure, we understand that these guys are trying to ensure that they have a full roster, but at what price? For all the MILLIONS of dollars these coaches make and given the fact that they are the adults, you would think that they would take the moral high ground and do the right thing ethically by these kids. And where the hell are the University Presidents, Athletic Directors, and the NCAA on all of this??? They don't appear to have a problem with a coach accepting a signed LOI that binds the player to a school, only to rip it up and not honor it because he couldn't count to 85 and doesn't have enough room for everyone.
Thankfully, not all coaches operate this way. There are coaches who refuse gamble with lives of the kids they recruit by hedging their bets on academic eligibility and injuries. Guys like Mark Richt, Jim Tressel, and several others around the country.
Jim Tressel was asked about recruiting numbers at the Big 10 Media Days this week, here are his comments:
When asked about the 2002 recruiting class..
"It was special, and it was 25 guys--which is an unusually high number."
25 unusually high??? Not for the SEC. When asked about the size of his upcoming recruiting class...
..."21 or 22. That would be the lid. We never want to be in that predicament where we're close to being over, because all of a sudden you're not recruiting a guy that you said to him you're recruiting. And we've got some walk-ons that we try to help them out."
This is nothing new for Tressel, here are some of his comments regarding last year's class. This was taken on National Signing Day.
How is it that Jim Tressel already knows EXACTLY how many spots he will have for the next recruiting class in August, yet some SEC coaches all seem to not know what their numbers will be until next August? That's because Tressel is not gambling with his commitments and is not hedging his bets to gain a competitive advantage, something that is just a way of life in some places.
What LSU, Alabama, and other schools are doing is not only is poor taste, it cheats the game, not to mention the players that get screwed in the process. We get all up in arms when a coach runs the score up on a weak opponent or does something cheap like call a last second time out from the sideline right before a kicker kicks a potential game-winning field goal. We boo these acts because they cheapen the game and they are unsportsmanlike; oversigning is no different, at least for the time being until it is banned and then it will not just be unsportsmanlike, it will be illegal.








August 3rd, 2010 - 19:52
Wow. Jim Tressel seem like an amazing honorable coach. Unlike those SEC coaches. Why can’t they all be like Tressel?
August 3rd, 2010 - 22:14
What do you mean, setting up corrupt boosters with star players and having your program cited for lack of institutional control like during Tressel’s tenure at Youngstown State?
August 3rd, 2010 - 21:53
I’m still waiting to hear specifics on student athletes who were living up to all their responsibilities and wanted to stay at a school but were cut to make room for a better player. How about a few specific players? How about one? Where are all these victimized student athletes who need the NCAA to protect them?
Oops! I’m sorry. This comment was intended for one of the other threads.
August 3rd, 2010 - 23:01
“We get all up in arms when a coach runs the score up on a weak opponent or does something cheap like call a last second time out from the sideline right before a kicker kicks a potential game-winning field goal. We boo these acts because they cheapen the game and they are unsportsmanlike.”
Are you serious? It’s unsportsmanlike to use a timeout to try to ice the kicker? You need to take it up with your hero Jim Tressel, who used 2 consecutive timeouts with 3 seconds left in an attempt to ice the Miami kicker in the 2003 Fiesta Bowl:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Fiesta_Bowl
“Miami started their drive at the Buckeye 26 yard line with 2:02 left in the game. They ran 3 plays for a total of 3 yards and decide to take a timeout on 4th and 7 with 3 seconds left in the game. Miami elected to have Sievers attempt a 40 yard field goal. Tressel called a timeout to try to ice the kicker. Ohio State then used its last timeout in a further attempt to rattle Sievers. The 40 yard attempt was successful, however, and tied the score at 17 with no time remaining in regulation play, forcing the game into overtime.”
With regard to sportsmanship, since you think Nick Saban is Satan’s spawn you must not have been watching when Alabama, leading 32-13, took the ball nearly the length of the field and ran off the last 7+ minutes of the SEC championship game with nothing but running plays. After 3rd string tailback Roy Upchurch broke a handoff to inside the Florida 15 with about a minute left, Saban had the QB McElroy take a knee twice in a row instead of trying to pound in another touchdown against the worn out Florida defense. If Tressel had done that you’d have put him up for sainthood.
August 3rd, 2010 - 23:36
I was referring to dickbag moves like this one…where the coach calls it from the sideline just a split second before the ball is snapped. That is not what Tressel did by the way, but I applaud you for taking the time to track that down. I never mentioned Saban in this post.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/21/sports/football/21icing.html
August 4th, 2010 - 08:14
“Perhaps DiNardo and Saban were a little better at using discretion when screwing players out of scholarship ”
sounds awfully close to slander again.
Oh and you mention Mark “Ritch” Richt, the guy who offered a scholarship to a Georgia player, only to take it away before the kid signed, and give it to a more highly sought after recruit. Leaving the kids to scramble to find a school to play for after almost all had given out their scholarships, yeah, real saint there.
September 8th, 2010 - 17:49
This is for you Andy from Toledo. Shut up spooge your whining is intolerable foog!
September 13th, 2010 - 10:16
Lol. Now I’ve seen it all. Tressel is lecturing to the SEC about corruption. The same guy who almost got Youngstown St. the death penalty, gave us Clarrett and Troy Smith scandals is now filling in for Mother Theresa on NCAA impropriety.
I love all of the excuses coming out of Columbus because they can’t beat an SEC team when it matters. 1st, it was because their academic standards are tougher – OSU gave courses on walking. Then it was because SEC schools won’t play them in the cold weather. Then it was because SEC schools had an unfair home advantage in the southern based bowls. And now it’s over signing. What’s it going to be next year? How about you guys just lining up and beating an SEC team on the field for once?