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Against Oversigning
List of Athletic Directors, University Presidents, and Coaches (both current and former) that have stated publicly that they are against oversigning.
Bernie Machen - Florida
Greg McGarity - Georgia
Bobby Dodd - GT (40 years ago)
Jim Tressel - Ohio State
Jay Paterno - Penn State
Kirk Ferentz - Iowa
Tom Osborne - Nebraska
Paul Johnson - GT
Bernie Machen - Florida
Greg McGarity - Georgia
Bobby Dodd - GT (40 years ago)
Jim Tressel - Ohio State
Jay Paterno - Penn State
Kirk Ferentz - Iowa
Tom Osborne - Nebraska
Paul Johnson - GT
In Favor of Oversigning
List of Athletic Directors, University Presidents, and Coaches that have publicly defended their practice of oversigning.
All 12 SEC Coaches voted to keep oversigning, these are the most vocal: Huston Nutt - Ole Miss
Bobby Petrino - Arkansas
Steve Spurrier - South Carolina
Nick Saban - Alabama
Les Miles - LSU
Larry Blakeney - Troy
Tommy Tuberville - Texas Tech
All 12 SEC Coaches voted to keep oversigning, these are the most vocal: Huston Nutt - Ole Miss
Bobby Petrino - Arkansas
Steve Spurrier - South Carolina
Nick Saban - Alabama
Les Miles - LSU
Larry Blakeney - Troy
Tommy Tuberville - Texas Tech
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2011 Oversigning Cup
Working on an update to the cup standings using the number of players signed. Time consuming process. Hope to have it finished soon. Until then, take a look at the number of players signed for each BCS conference.
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January 14th, 2011 - 23:31
Congratulations, Josh, and keep up the great work. The good guys are winning. This disgusting practice’s days are numbered, and you’ll have been one of the people most responsible for having killed it.
January 14th, 2011 - 23:36
Question for you Dawg. How do you feel about a player who had no offers whatsoever got an offer from UGA today because his close friend happens to be the top recruit in GA and one of the top in the country and still has not commited? Is it ethnical to convince a player you want him just to get another and if the other player does not commit do you honor the schoalrship offer to the player that no one else has? Just curious on your thoughts there.
January 14th, 2011 - 23:55
Zzzzzzzzz…
You know what’s great? You and the Alabama fans here know that this is about to be taken away from you. And you can’t stand it.
You know, just as your parents and grandparents had the choice to actually put the water cannons down and just finally do the right thing… you too don’t have to fight this to the bitter end. You are free to admit a social injustice when you see it and work to fix it. Trust me… it won’t kill you. Your neighbors will call you a hippie, pinko queer or whatever I’m sure. But the rest of the country and world will be on your side. Really. Ask your parents and grandparents. It might still make them mad to have to admit it… but I bet they’ll at least admit that they were wrong.
You don’t have to follow in their footsteps.
January 15th, 2011 - 00:04
Ask my grandparents. See your problem right there is you demonstrate your poor ignorance. By not being able to defend your poor attempt to support your arguement by playing the race card. Maybe you are refferring to my grandparents who came over from Ireland this century but yet never lived in the south. See it is people like you that cause things to never change. I or none of my family has ever lived in Alabama. But you can not stand when someone calls you out and have to resort to calling names or making allegations that are false. I also have never attended a SEC school and by far my alma maters are way better than UGA.
I will always be proud to follow in the footsteps of my family and I have no shame whatsoever in doing so. Especially my other side of my family where several of my relatives died fighting for the north to defeat the south including my great great great grandfather who died at Murfreesboro. So again you have displayed your ignorance as an individual with that post.
January 15th, 2011 - 00:10
Fill in the blank with whatever SEC West school/state it is you support then. You get the point.
January 15th, 2011 - 00:17
No I do not get the point when you make accusations about me that yo have no clue nut do so because you fail to defend yourself.
I do not reside in a SEC state and was born in a SEC East state. So again you fail here.
January 15th, 2011 - 16:38
And your favorite school?
January 15th, 2011 - 16:54
I have repeatedly said I pull for UA in football on this site, but just because I pull for a school in a state does not make me a racist because of actions that took place in that state many decades ago.
If that is the case how can you pull for UGA, because the state of GA was no saint regarding equal rights. Maybe your understanding of history is vague if you believe that racial atrocities only happened in the states that have schools a part of the SEC west.
Go read the story about the basketball program at Texas Western.
January 15th, 2011 - 21:21
“I have repeatedly said I pull for UA in football on this site”
Thanks. See above.
January 15th, 2011 - 21:37
See above? You mean that because I pull for UA iI am from there and my whole family. You mean the racial comments you made about my family being the problems of social unrest.
Sorry do not understand except you continue to avoid any comment regarding your statements.
Why do you play the race card anytime someone calls you out on here?
Why do you group every fan of the SEC West to some hate group that opresses others?
And another question you failed to answer before.
Do you believe it is unethnical for a school desperate to get a top recruit from instate as to go as far as to recruit his close friend a cousin the day he is leaving for a recruiting trip? This friend/cousin has no other offers but now all of a sudden UGA offers Harrow because of his relationship with Crowell.
Do you believe that UGA has the best interest in recruiting him?
Do you believe if Crowell commits to either UA or AU UGA will honor the scholarship to Harrow?
My guess is you will fail to answer any of those questions since you seem to have avoided it already.
But I expect that from you and at best you will make another snide comment or false accusation against me or someone else to make yourself feel better.
I think I am going to start calling you DSB jr. You love to jump on people, make wild accusations about them, and than get very defensive when cornered.
January 15th, 2011 - 07:11
Definition of sanctimony:
Feigned piety or righteousness; hypocritical devoutness or high-mindedness.
January 15th, 2011 - 04:37
Congratulations! Perhaps there will be an annual signing limit that ends the problem – soon.
January 15th, 2011 - 09:29
I love the fact that many do not give Alabama, Auburn, LSU credit for their National Championships! It is just a matter of time when the nation looks back and gives these programs their collective asterisk . 3 slimy programs who have shown that they don’t match up well with other programs when asked to play by the same rules.
The SEC west teams sellout their soul for football. How many organized sports do they have compared from Pac 10, Big 12 and Big 10 again?
Given their cheating history from the Bear era, Bama should not be considered amongst the greats imo
1) ND
2)USC
3)Michigan
4) Ohio State
5) Nebraska
January 15th, 2011 - 10:54
Really, do you actually research before you make grand statements about programs that you consider great and that do not cheat.
Since 2000, Ohio State has reported to the NCAA more than 375 violations — the most of any of the 69 Football Bowl Subdivision schools that provided documents to The Dispatch through public-records requests. Most infractions were minor — a coach called a recruit too many times, for example. Others, however, left athletes benched, fined or at least embarrassed.
Also are you one of those ones like others that get mad when CNS says “violation of team rules” but does not go into detail what those were because those also seem like famous words of Jim Tressel.
Tressel has used the term “violation of team rules” to explain the suspensions of at least 10 players.
January 15th, 2011 - 15:34
“Since 2000, Ohio State has reported to the NCAA..”
The key is Ohio State reports to the NCAA . You really think those SEC programs are going to report the NCAA? and are going to provide a Columbus paper their dirty laundry?
If so, do you really think that is a moral equivalence anyways? Sad.
The Big Ten and Pac 10 have higher standards.
Alabama’s history is well noted. There is nothing new under the sun.
January 15th, 2011 - 16:05
Actually all schools report the secondary violations, because until this upcoming year the NCAA does nothing about them.
History is living in the past lets talk about the current. I know it helps you try and justify your side but what happend at UA prior to CNS has little bearing. I know you might want ot lump it in.
The signifigance is that you said OSU had greater standards. Sorry breaking the rules is breaking the rules. It does not make it better because you reported it. The fact is is still is wrong and rules were broken. If you had read the article as you imply you would also have read that SEC schools were also reported as well in it. Also any violation is made public thanks to the Freedom of Information Act. Which means if I go to any school and ask what violations they have had to report or have reported they would have to release that info. The only info they can not release is any specifics relating to a student. So in this situation there is no dirty laundry being hidden.
What I find wrong is people that preach morals and/or ethnics but yet like to draw the line when they need to. See you defend the actions of one school but call out another. A little hypocritical would you not say.
January 15th, 2011 - 16:26
SoccerMike,
Nice try, but that won’t work.
I work with public records request. It is not as black and white as you would like to portray, and one has to be very accurate in what they are asking for.
Never did I defend OSU. I just doubt that Bama was willing to disclose.
Your relativism is embarrassing, then again, you are willing to defend the indefensible.
January 15th, 2011 - 16:46
Again where have I defended anything. Please show me because all I pointed out is you made the statement about one school being so much better and I showed you where they were not with facts not opinion or conjecture.
Next you make the statement because they reported it, that it was better. Sorry go ask a married woman if it matters to her whether her husband told her or she found out another way about him cheating on him. No matter how you try and spin it, it is wrong.
Use whatever word you want but it does not help your arguement.
I also for do some pro bono work for a watchdog organization that focuses on universities and colleges in the US. I can tell you with the exception of student records everything else is easy to obtain.
January 16th, 2011 - 14:43
It’s funny to see the amount of time and your obvious desperation here.
Sign that the good guys are winning. I doubt you had to fight this hard to defend Alabama’s disgusting practices until recently.
January 16th, 2011 - 15:41
The good guys ok that is funny. How about you stop avoiding the qeustions back to you and actually answer them or are you afraid to which is usually what happens when someone can not or atleast does not want to because it will make them look foolish.
January 16th, 2011 - 16:33
Since you seem to be such a champion of social issues do you also lobby against UGA in its disparity of African Americans. You do realize that UGA is ranked 5th in the country for disparity between white football players who graduate and African American who graduate.
If you play football at UGA(SEC East) and are white you have a 83% to graduate. If you are African American you have only a 48% chance to graduate a difference of 35%. Sort of sad. They do what they can at UGA to get their football a degree. BTW UA is not ranked like UGA.
Also at UGA did you realize that UGA is ranked 9th overall in the SEC for overall graduation rates and that only Arkansas is behind them. That the other 5 SEC West teams graduation rates are higher.
Also did you know that UGA leads the SEC(all teams) with the largest difference between regular students and football players. They are ranked in the top 15 in the country and the only SEC team there. There is a 19% disparity between the students and the football player. That sounds like an athletic sweatshop to me. Sorry used your term.
No you will either try to justify this or just avoid it like other posts directed at you, but facts are facts. Opinions are not.
January 16th, 2011 - 16:34
Sorry let me give you a link for that info.
http://stanford.scout.com/2/952555.html
January 17th, 2011 - 20:22
375 violations (secondary) in an AD that has 36 sports, the most in FBS, which BTW has 120 teams. Only 69 provided documents to the Dispatch, that’s 51 schools that did not respond. I would like to see the numbers compared to a realistic sample. The last time Ohio State football was put on probation was 1957 (1 year). The last major violation was in 1978 and resulted in a reprimand. After the NCAA completed their investigation in Mo Clarett’s allegations, they said that tOSU was a “model of compliance” “Violation of team rules” is used by every coach at every school. It can mean anything from curfew to weed. If Tressel or any coach suspends players for violations of team rules, it means whatever they did wasn’t against the law or breaking NCAA rules. Nick Saban has been known to use that phrase a few times.
January 17th, 2011 - 18:09
oversigning is a lack of ethics. anybody that can defend or support this behavoir………should be in politics! There is no arguing on the matter, no debate!
February 4th, 2011 - 09:09
Hey. Nice site. I ran a site like this for 6 years and it took just about everything I had.
Anyway great reads and information.
I am an Iowa fan and I have been watching the national media run all over them the past two weeks.
Not much fun. But a nice class and NO OVERSIGNING.