If Delaney can’t acknowledge that Alabama was a far superior team to anyone in the Big 10 last year, he probably has no business overseeing anything football-related.

The article highlights more of Meyer’s lies, deceit, hypocrisy, and immorality.

You are correct in saying that exposing the hypocrisy of a preacher does not make the preacher’s arguments invalid. But consider this: The preacher is angry and jealous of his rivals. The preacher only preaches against his rivals. The preacher overlooks and makes excuses for the more blaring and obvious immorality of his friends and followers.

This preacher is obviously hypocritical. The hypocrisy does not make him wrong, but it exposes his motives. His ill motives explain his actions. He is compelled to find error where there is no error. He is compelled to overlook error where error exists.

He is wrong, not because of his hypocrisy! Rather, he is hypocritical because he is wrong!

Answer this:

Are Meyer’s recruiting tactics ethical? Or do you agree with Bielema’s (and other coaches) criticisms?

The truth about Philon is not UA yanking a scholly and he lost all credibility when he linked an article Scarb. He might as well asked Danny Sheridan for his professional opinion. The facts are now coming out regarding Philon. Apparantly Philon and his HS coach lied to not only Saban but other schools. When Philon hurt his knee in Nov in the playoffs and was suppose to get surgery his coach had him continue to play.

….In a first-round Class 5A playoff victory in November, Philon suffered a knee injury and didn’t return to that game, but did hobble through the rest of the playoffs. His coach, Kerry Stevenson, said a day later the knee would require surgery, but that it hadn’t been scheduled yet. As of this past Wednesday, that surgery had still not been scheduled. Stevenson told the Mobile Press-Register the doctors wouldn’t know the severity of the injury until it was scoped….

http://arkansas.247sec.com/2012/02/03/the-curious-journey-of-signee-darius-philon/

The problem is the HC lied plain and simple. He held no regard for his player by having him continue on and play because winning was more important. He also told Saban and many others that he had surgery but now we have that was not the case and when the UA staff found out they pulled the offer, which happened the week before NSD.

….Multiple sources at Vigor, including head coach Kerry Stevenson, have said Philon had surgery for a torn meniscus in December….

Again I would expect no less from this site. It will only print fabrications without finding out what is true and what is not.

That method discredits the movement itself. Until the critics are willing to abandon this “B1G good, all others bad” theme (which is complete nonsense), then we’re arguing about relative conference evils rather than reform.

Why people can’t see that baffles me. The means chosen actually get in the way of the desired ends. Senseless.

Yea, I have posted a couple of comments on 11W. I don’t know what the big deal is about using the same name – I am who I am. I started reading there to get a better feel for B10, and OSU fans perspective. While most of them display the typical B10 elitism, there are many who will at least discuss things with you – and many don’t share Josh’s cynical view, though most do.

I honestly don’t know where I’m being uncivil here. Yea, I’m calling Josh out – he deserves it. He spouts accusations and rumor like it’s fact over and over, yet he won’t answer what should be simple questions about how he reaches his conclusion. When presented with data or arguments that refute his opinions, he ignores it. So much so that he now deals mostly on Twitter where he can say whatever he wants and can block anyone who questions him. But I try not to attack anyone personally here – it should be all about the issue.

Lastly, the Buckeyes have an NCAA-mandated reduced cap of 82 scholarships over the next three years. With their 25 LOIs this year, they are currently at 84 – with two more guys that they are recruiting yet to commit or sign, and a third that may or may not have had his offer pulled on NSD ( http://cleveland.sbnation.com/ohio-st-buckeyes/2012/2/1/2764942/davonte-neal-ohio-state-recruits-national-signing-day ). This does not count the kid who was committed until just before NSD when he was arrested. OSU was right in pulling their offer to him, but it shows that they were offering to at least 29 at one time – which would put them at 6 over the limit.

I’ll also remind you that while they are “only” oversigned by 2 at this time (and per B10 rules likely won’t take more than one more – thus the confusion over the Neal kid – they would be over by 9 if not for the loss of 7 scholarship players since Christmas – a timeframe where Bama has not lost any.

Maybe that’s why the Big 10 has been so bad lately. Do the Big 10 coaches have a draft? Do they call dibs? They divide up talent instead of competing for it? A gentleman’s agreement sounds alot like anti-competition. There are some real ethical issues that arise in a situation like this. Apple was recently under fire for some gentleman’s agreement whereby they would not attempt to lure empoyees from certain other employers. That’s illegal.

Check the moral compass! It’s not pointing toward the Big 10!

Are Meyer’s recruiting tactics ethical? Or do you agree with Bielema’s (and other coaches) criticisms?

Have fun deleting that, J.

Big 10 coaches dislike Urban Meyer’s recruiting practices!?!?! Will Josh defend Meyer? Or will Josh acknowledge that these coaches sound alot like the drivel we’ve been hearing about oversigning for the last few years?

It is no longer a debate. In fact… it hasn’t been a debate for a long time.

It is an emotional narrative with no substance. It’s a cry against WINNERS. All the underachievers and minorities pile on… they all want to believe that Alabama is doing something nefarious to win. Fans of my favorite team oftentimes stoop to this level… it is motivated by jealousy. Jealousy blinds them of logic, blinds them of the blatant hypocrisy.

He has lost the argument, but he is silencing his critics and inciting jealous crowds into an illogical frenzy.

Now about Bama. I don’t know why Josh has abandoned putting his thoughts about this here. Perhaps it is similar to why he blocks everyone on twitter who disagrees with him. I must ask why you have such a problem with Bama this year. The SEC’s rule worked (for you). It did what you have repeated said you want. Two kids that would have been able to sign LOIs in previous years with the school of their choice had to look elsewhere. Bama wasn’t able to bring in extra insurance for summer attrition.

Yet Josh’s recent tweets are all about Bama screwing over a couple of recruits. How? Both had grayshirt offers – they still had scholarships waiting at Alabama if they wanted to go there. They both were informed as to the nature of their offer with enough time remaining to secure and accept offers at other schools. And not some Sun Belt or FCS school – other SEC teams. I’m sorry, but I fail to see how they were so screwed over. Let’s review Josh’s own words from one of his articles back in July:

Everyone that visits this site, whether you are pro-oversigning or anti-oversigning, agrees that when it comes to grayshirting there must be an agreement on or before NSD.

Both of these guys he says have been royally screwed by Bama were informed before NSD as to their grayshirt offer. Why has your opinion changed?

http://oversigning.com/testing/index.php/2011/07/11/tennessee-have-oversiging-issues/

Why are comments disabled on the new article? It seems like the comment feature seems to go away when OSU is in the middle of an oversigning controversy. Is it because…

OSU oversigned!!!!?!?!?!