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20Jan/11Off

Oversigning Cup Standings

The Cup Standings will be here at the top until NSD - be sure to scroll down for new posts.  Note we added a column to place a link to the team scholarship roster.  If you have one please post hereIMPORTANT: These standings are not final - at this point in the process we are looking at verbal commitments, which are different than players actually signing.  We should be able to round up solid, concrete numbers after signing day.  This is a reader-based event, your feedback and updates are critical -- if the numbers we have on the board are wrong post an update so we can fix the numbers.  Part of this exercise is to get you, the reader, engaged in this topic and reviewing your own team's numbers - this is just as much about raising awareness as it is crowning a champion of oversigning.

The Oversigning Cup - 2011

School SPES Departures Budget # Verbals Cup Points Roster
Ole Miss* 85 15 15 29 +14 Link 1 2
Alabama 84 12 (8sr+3jr+1ts) 13 18 (+2gs+3Juco)=23 +10 Link
USC** 85 25 25 (-10) 25 +10 Link
LSU 85 12 (11sr+1jr) 12 21 +9  
Arkansas 85 20 (19sr+1jr) 20 28 +8  
South Carolina 77 18 26 (30) +5  
Miss State 85 19 19 24 +5 Link1 2
Clemson 83 20 (18sr+2jr) 22 24 +2 Link
Michigan State 85 17 17 18 +1  
Ohio State 83 20 22 21 (+1Juco) 0 Link1 2
Penn State 84 14 (11sr+3dp) 15 15 0 Link
Florida State 74 13 24 24 0 Link
Notre Dame 78 18 25 23 -2 Link
Miami 85 15 15 12 -3 Link 1 2
Florida 84 18 19 15 -4  
Auburn 84 25 (22sr+3jr) 26 22 -4  
Minnesota 74 14 25 20 -5 Link
Nebraska 85 23 (20sr+2md+1tr) 23 16 (+1gs+1ms)=18 -5  
Georgia 84 25 (19sr+2jr+2dc+1ts+1md) 26 21 -5 Link
Michigan 80 14 (13sr+1tr) 19 12 -7 Link 1 2
Iowa 85 29 29 20 -9  


Table Key

* We need verification on the Ole Miss' SPEC number.  Did they have anyone leave during the season that would have made their SPEC lower than 85?

** We are unclear about USC's appeal situation and whether or not they are allowed the full 85 this year or not.

19Jan/11207

Official Oversigning Cup Update Thread

This is the official thread for the oversigning cup updates.  Please only post updates and numbers for the cup standings here.   Alabama fans that insist on arguing that there is nothing wrong with oversigning will be removed from this thread.  Please submit entries in the following format: Just include the numbers for each column in the cup along with any relevant links used in your research...roster charts, etc.  A brief explanation is fine, but nothing too long.

The Oversigning Cup - 2011

School SPES Departures Budget # Verbals Cup Points Roster
Ole Miss* 85 15 15 29 +14 Link 1 2
Alabama 84 12 (8sr+3jr+1ts) 13 18 (+2gs+3Juco)=23 +10 Link
USC** 85 25 25 (-10) 25 +10 Link
LSU 85 12 (11sr+1jr) 12 21 +9  
Arkansas 85 20 (19sr+1jr) 20 28 +8  
South Carolina 77 18 26 (30) +5  
Miss State 85 19 19 24 +5 Link1 2
Clemson 83 20 (18sr+2jr) 22 24 +2 Link
Michigan State 85 17 17 18 +1  
Ohio State 83 20 22 21 (+1Juco) 0 Link1 2
Penn State 84 14 (11sr+3dp) 15 15 0 Link
Florida State 74 13 24 24 0 Link
Notre Dame 78 18 25 23 -2 Link
Miami 85 15 15 12 -3 Link 1 2
Florida 84 18 19 15 -4  
Auburn 84 25 (22sr+3jr) 26 22 -4  
Minnesota 74 14 25 20 -5 Link
Nebraska 85 23 (20sr+2md+1tr) 23 16 (+1gs+1ms)=18 -5  
Georgia 84 25 (19sr+2jr+2dc+1ts+1md) 26 21 -5 Link
Michigan 80 14 (13sr+1tr) 19 12 -7 Link 1 2
Iowa 85 29 29 20 -9  

Update: Michigan State Fans. We have you at -1 based on this chart http://michiganstate.247sports.com/Board/94/2011-Football-Scholarship-Chart-726235/1; we need to confirm that you had a full 85 at the end of the season last year.  For now we are assuming that you had a full 85, if not then your cup points are just lower and you still have more room.  Please update if you can.

Arkansas Fans: Rivals has you at 28 verbal commitments; please explain you had 25 last year.  South Carolina, you have 28 verbals as well with 23 last year.

6Jan/1162

Time to Gear Up for the Oversigning Cup

When we started this blog back in February of 2010, we were unable to collect enough data on all of the schools to conduct a formal Oversigning Cup.  However this year, given the widespread attention now being given to oversiging (it has literally gotten to the point where you cannot read a sports article without seeing the word oversigning in there somewhere), we might, with your help, be able to conduct a formal Oversigning Cup and determine which schools go over the limit the most.

The formula is pretty simple, the hardest part and the most time consuming is looking at a roster and determine how many players are on scholarship at the end of the season (now) and how many are seniors that have expired their eligibility, but once you have that it is easy to figure out the rest.

The Oversigning Cup - 2011

School SPES Departures Budget # Verbals Cup Points Roster
Ole Miss* 85 15 15 29 +14 Link 1 2
Alabama 84 12 (8sr+3jr+1ts) 13 18 (+2gs+3Juco)=23 +10 Link
USC** 85 25 25 (-10) 25 +10 Link
LSU 85 12 (11sr+1jr) 12 21 +9  
Arkansas 85 20 (19sr+1jr) 20 28 +8  
South Carolina 77 18 26 (30) +5  
Miss State 85 19 19 24 +5 Link1 2
Clemson 83 20 (18sr+2jr) 22 24 +2 Link
Michigan State 85 17 17 18 +1  
Ohio State 83 20 22 21 (+1Juco) 0 Link1 2
Penn State 84 14 (11sr+3dp) 15 15 0 Link
Florida State 74 13 24 24 0 Link
Notre Dame 78 18 25 23 -2 Link
Miami 85 15 15 12 -3 Link 1 2
Florida 84 18 19 15 -4  
Auburn 84 25 (22sr+3jr) 26 22 -4  
Minnesota 74 14 25 20 -5 Link
Nebraska 85 23 (20sr+2md+1tr) 23 16 (+1gs+1ms)=18 -5  
Georgia 84 25 (19sr+2jr+2dc+1ts+1md) 26 21 -5 Link
Michigan 80 14 (13sr+1tr) 19 12 -7 Link 1 2
Iowa 85 29 29 20 -9  

Regarding the table above, here is what each column defines:

SPES: Scholarship Players at End of the Season: this is the total number of players on scholarship at the end of the season.  This is basically the year end roster from which we subtract and add players to in order to determine the amount of oversigning.

Departures: Graduating seniors with no remaining eligibility and Juniors that declare for the draft by January 15th.

Budget: The number of recruits that a school should sign based on 85 - (SPES - Departures).  Example, with an SPES of 84 and Departures of 18, the Budget would be 85 - (84-18) = 19

# of Players Signed: This is the total number of players that sign a national letter of intent in the current recruiting class.  Update: this field has been renamed to # Verbals until NSD gets here - at which time we will change it back.

Cup Points: The total number of signed letters that exceed the budget number.  This is the number of oversigned players.  This will also be the number of players that are cut, forced into transfers, medical hardships, greyshirts, or set a form letter from Les Miles.

Included above was South Carolina's numbers for this year (these are not official yet because players have not signed their letters of intent yet) based on information from another oversigning blog that has been created recently.

http://oversigningnotes.wordpress.com/2011/01/07/steve-spurrier-has-some-cuts-to-make/

The only way to make this happen is to have a lot of help from readers and people who are passionate about fixing this problem.  If you want to participate, simply post your numbers in the discussion thread below; all we ask is that you provide some sort of reference for your numbers.

Those of you who want to help the cause but aren't sure what you can do - this is your chance to pitch in - pick a team, maybe your own or maybe your rival, and investigate their recruiting numbers and practices - help gather the data and post it here and we will put it up on the board.

13Jun/100

The Oversigning Cup – 2011

We finally got around to creating a dedicated page for next year's Oversigning Cup.  We mentioned this a while back, but haven't been able to get around to setting it up for next year until now.   All the details you need are here.   Be sure to review the table definitions.  Basically, our goal here is to establish a recruiting budget for each team based on the standard procedures for determining how many slots each team will have open for the next year, and then we want to see which schools go over that budget on national signing day. 

It will be very interesting to see which teams go over, especially now that oversigning has been brought to light. 

The Oversigning Cup - 2011

School SPES Departures Budget # Signed Cup Points
School A 85 19 19 29 10
School B 84 24 25 23 -2